Posts by label licker

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I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.

by cognisonance in

all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.

i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.

they can remain jws for all i care.

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I have a sister who is 70 and all I asked was how can the holy spirit keep making mistakes and changing their doctrines. How can that be a helper directing us. She freaked out over the phone first admitting it was her fault for not remembering everything and that I was shaking her faith. She agrees it's rotten in her hall and every hall she's been in but she will wait on Jehovah. I haven't heard from her since and she does not email me.

This poor woman lives all alone living off of welfare which is $600.00 per month. Never married and gave her whole life as a special pioneer/pioneer to this filthy cult. Her health is really bad yet she doesn't realize that it will be us that looks after her when her elders tell her she's not their problem. She still accepts what ever we give her and is very thankful but on the other hand when there is a reno, there she is making trays of cabbage rolls and butter tarts for them which she cannot afford.

For sure it's a cult!!!!! I hope that you will have some time left with them when it's time for the org to dump them on to who ever will look after them and hopefully it will be you:) Being patient is all you can do for now.

(((HUGS)))

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I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.

by cognisonance in

all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.

i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.

they can remain jws for all i care.

label licker

I kept the info that someone posted here and it's in the elders manualHere is something the Elders won’t tell you.

According to the Elders rule book (Shepherd the Flock of God), you cannot be disfellowshipped for associating with a disfellowshipped person as long as you are not having “spiritual association or openly criticizing the disfellowshipping decision”.

Here is what it says in Chapter 10 of the “Shepherd the Flock of God” book:

“If members of the congregation are known to have undue association with disfellowshipped or disassociated relatives who are not in the household, elders should counsel and reason with those members of the congregation from the Scriptures. Review with them information from the “God’s Love” book, pages 207-208; The Watchtower of April 15, 1988, pages 26-30; or the article “Display Christian Loyalty When a Relative Is Disfellowshipped” in the August 2002 Our Kingdom Ministry. If it is clear that a Christian is violating the spirit of the disfellowshipping decree in this regard and does not respond to counsel, it may be that he would not qualify for congregation privileges, which require one to be exemplary. He would not be dealt with judicially unless there is persistent spiritual association or he openly criticizes the disfellowshipping decision.” – (2010 – Shepherd the Flock of God, Chapter 10, Page 116) on page 116 of chapter 10.

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Brooklyn Update – January 10, 2015

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

email sent to me from a friend in new york city..

brooklyn update january 10, 2015.

we have spent the last few weeks in training at the montgomery facility (near walkill) there are 6 couples that were trained to go on the road as ldc field representatives of the branch.

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Local Design/Construction Department

There's a letter that went out stating an upcoming meeting on what this new department at bethel is all about. Maybe someone can post it. More skinning of the sheep before their slaughter. I wish they would wake up. So sad.

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Ex-Bethelite Interviewed - New JW Podcast Episode

by God_Delusion in

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friends

hi guys & gals,.

we've just released the latest jw podcast show episode where we interview an ex-bethelite.

some of his revelations at what really goes on at bethel are astounding!.

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I enjoy the way he writes but listening to him was even better. When they were talking about how the cult will use the same pictures but change their stories from time to time made me think of this one story where it was about this woman who left her jewish faith. Then, a year later or so, there's that same face but with a different story. I had told my husband it was the same woman and he said no way, why would the society use her twice on two different stories.

The blood issue hit me hard for I had a brother that needed a blood transfusion at around 11/12 years of age, and my parents let him die. He died at sick childrens hospital in Toronto. My mother was never the same and ten years later, she took a bottle of pain pills right before her surgery and died. She had a massive heart attack coming out of her recovery. She had died on the same day that my brother, Timothy-Paul had died ten years previously.

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2015 March-Our Kingdom Ministry!

by Atlantis in

is the watchtower having problems with meetings for field service?

are field service meetings being viewed as "less" important than other meetings?.

2015 march, our kingdom ministry.. click the link by the blue arrow.. https://www.sendspace.com/file/fwcmcc ;.

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Thanks for the chuckle, Atlantis. I liked the one where if there are no brothers that the sister would wear a head covering and be seated. Oh, and if a young baptized brother shows up to the group that the elders will decide if he's old enough to take the group. If not, then the sister takes the group and if the elders feel he can give a prayer, then he's allowed. Is this this the outcome of baptizing children too young????If they are not sure of him taking the group or even saying a prayer then what in the hell questions did the elders go over with him just before he got baptized???

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VOW OF OBEDIENCE AND POVERTY

by Coded Logic in

i didn't know the wtbts had an order.

anyone ever heard of the "order of full time servants" aka "the order" within the jehovah's witnesses?.

(below is a legal document from the wtbts).

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Their meaning of vow of poverty and materialistic things equals indoor swimming pools, outdoor pizza ovens, out door gazebos, tennis courts, paved walking trails, outdoor smoke house, vollyball sandpits, horseshoe pits, mini golf courses, zambonie for their ice rinks, a complete gym work out room, esspresso machine for their meals, basketball court, beauty salon, laundry mat, music room, and the list goes on and on and on. And this is part of the tour they don't show the public. Forgot to include their friendly guard dogs and their food as well as their cats with their cat toys. Do any of you own all these? No, we just have to pay for it so they can have it on top of working and paying for our own bills at home.

Hypocrites!

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Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction

by pixel in

fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!

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29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.

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If the cult for one second thought of their followers knowing times are tough and money is tight for many, why wouldn't they build on additions to their halls without having to sell and start over? Maybe add on a solarium if they wanted it to look fancy. It's all about $$$$$$$$$. No need to rebuild a whole entire kingdom hall just to draw in one or two stragglers off the street.

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w15 04/15- More Shunning!

by wifibandit in

full set : http://imgur.com/a/zubma.

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And what if you were framed because the elders of the Elmira, Ontario congregation were covering up illegal activities. Better yet, because they knew all what this one guy was doing but did nothing about it made them a part of his gross sins. So they had to shut us up fast so they df'd my husband who did not go to his judicial committee but was df'd at the end of our lane. He tried to tell them of the new doctrinal changes and they called him an apostate and said he was df'd right there on the spot.That's a loving provision from Jehovah?????

I swear that all the leaders in this cult from elders up to the governing body have a bunch of squirrels juggling knives inside their heads. It's just a matter of time where their leaders will tell them the due time has come to kill.

If they can convince people to give up all their friends and family, they will have no problem convincing them to go out and kill.

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Is shunning effective?

by rebel8 in

does shunning accomplish its objectives:.

make the person repent?.

deter others from committing similar offenses in the future?.

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If jw's would stop judging, squealing, stalking, gossiping and lying of others and would stand against what the org promotes which isn't love, then this would force the religion to change their shunning policies to a more loving approach for those who simply don't want to be in it anymore.

If they truly followed the scriptures, most of them would leave. Most have been trained not to even have a conscience anymore but to be spoon fed their messed up doctrines. Poor sheep have been skinned alive before their slaughter.

1 Corinthians 4:3-5. This scripture alone shows they don't have Christ's backing for they have no faith in that he is the one and only to do the judging. As well, they lack love which Yeshuah had come to preach. How sad for the jw`s to deny his death when they feel their death cancels out their sins. (Romans 6:7 is this scripture they use for proof)

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Site issues: Jan 02 Update (Sign In)

by Simon in

i've deployed a fix for people affected by sign-in issues caused by having multiple accounts associated with the same email address.

here's how to activate the fix:.

you must attempt to sign in using the email address associated with your account (not a username) and must have access to that mailbox.. if there are multiple accounts associated with the email address then you will be shown a warning message with the option to have an email sent to repair your account.. the email will contain a link to a page showing all the accounts associated with the same email address and allow you to select the one you want to be active (it will disassociate all the other accounts from the email address).. once you have completed the process then you should be able to sign in as normal.

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Finally got in, thanks Simon and hope you and your family get well:)